| Thursday 9th April 2009 11:45am 1 |

Tom
250 Posts
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What are your thoughts on the Layout Manager?
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| Thursday 9th April 2009 12:28pm 2 |

olsnet
2 Posts
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I like it very much.
But can you make a sub-tab?
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| Thursday 9th April 2009 02:56pm 3 |

SocialPreneur
111 Posts
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I like it - but it is not behaving for me. I have sent some support
requests through.
1. The tabs will not reorder themselves - Is there a save button
anywhere? (LOVE The sub tabs)
2. Is everything able to be dragged and dropped in sections? Eg: I
try and try to drag a section but it keep bouncing back. I thought
everything could be rearranged?
2. I am tring to delete a main tab and it is shaded grey and will
not let me delete and have event details on the right hand side,
weird!
3. When you insert a HTML button - on the old homepage widget you
could have a heading. Has this been disabled? Eg, the heading can
say OUR SPONSORS or ADVERTISE HERE and you can have an
advertisement. Now there is no option to put the heading. Looks
stupid.
4. On the profile page I added a HTML Box - I my profile and its
says error received.
Finding my way arounnd OK, after a very long wait for it to arrive,
cant wait to see the widget store.
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| Thursday 9th April 2009 09:22pm 4 |

H A
8 Posts
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really it s not i was waiting for. why we can not edit all widjet.
because i want to translate that.
really it like not professinal.
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| Thursday 9th April 2009 09:43pm 5 |

ozijon
32 Posts
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Great stuff worth the wait :)
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| Friday 10th April 2009 05:30am 6 |

iceman
79 Posts
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Why cant we:
a. move items around currently in place, example; the Latest
Activity Page, moving the activity list to a different location?
I'd like to move the elements you already have on the Group
Profile Page to different areas?
b. Use items you already have on other pages; example; I'd like
to use some some of the elements on the Latest Activity Page on
other Pages, such as latest groups, or new members, etc. Let us
mix and match all the elements on different pages.
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| Friday 10th April 2009 06:06am 7 |

Francois
1 Posts
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Well to be honest,
It is nice that the layout manager is out, but it uses mostly
"Widgets".
So where is the "Widget Store"?
Can't take full advantage of this layout manager without the
"Widget Store".
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| Friday 10th April 2009 06:19am 8 |

Evil G
135 Posts
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@olsnet You can make unlimited "sub-menu tabs" by clicking on the
"New Tab" option (as compared with primary page menu tabs which you
make by clicking on the "New Page" option. With the primary and
sub-menu tabs, you have limitless combinations at your fingertips!
Drop by the LAB if you have any further questions or wish to see
more extensive examples:
@Francois
The Widget Store is being held back a little bit until we've
ensured that all potential bugs with Layout Manager are sorted.
This will ensure that we deliver the fastest and most effective
live test possible.
@SocialPreneur (and @iceman re. moving standard page
elements)
1. Tabs can be reordered by dragging, they should all "stick" where
moved. If they do not, then you have a bug which has been seen on
some sites. That is not the normal behavior;
2. There are some minor restrictions on dragging and dropping into
certain sections when you are using default page elements.
Otherwise, anything goes. This is a temporary limitation due to
some legacy page elements that are still scheduled to be
"widgetized" so that they better scale to any shape and size in any
location. Remember the original page layout was nowhere near this
flexible, so the original page elements were built "to
size"...these have to be updated to make them drag and drop;
2. Certain default pages do not let you delete them so as to avoid
the chance of you being unable to recreate them in the future. When
disabled, they are not visible to anyone visiting the site;
3. The heading option for HTML widgets is a valid point, which we
will add to the list of requests we are collecting for SocialGO.
You can, however, recreate this easily using basic CSS and html,
and we will do a tutorial on this at WidgetLaboratory so you can
see how to do the same. Good tip!
4. Not sure about the Profile page HTML error, can you reproduce
this every time? If so, please send this as a discovered bug along
with your details to support@socialgo.com
EG
WidgetLaboratory
Feel free to contact the LAB for help any time:
help@widgetlaboratory.com or http://tokbox.com/EvilG
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| Friday 10th April 2009 02:12pm 9 |

SocialPreneur
111 Posts
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1. Still having problems with all of my tabs and now sub tabs -
have logged suppport request. They move around OK but dont
stick.
2. Without having headings available for HTML widgets I am up
shit creek without a paddle.
3. LOVING IT though
4. Love how you can embed an external site but I am wondering how
legal that is, Any ideas?
5. When you embed an I Frame - I can see how to change the
height, but how do you change the width when it is at 100% -
There should be a box you can put custom in there like the height
box
Happy Easter everybody, I am away until Monday, spewing I just
want to stay home and play with my new layout manager.
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| Friday 10th April 2009 08:31pm 10 |

Ryan F
248 Posts
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This seriously needs to be added to LM soon. The ability to not
have immediate updates when you move things around. There should be
a save button and nothing gets updated till you click it. If you
are doing a bunch of changes and maintenance then you do not want
visitors to see everthing going crazy in realtime. Better yet a
backend save and then a publish button would be optimal.
I know its just starting but this should be pushed up to the front
of the line.
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| Saturday 11th April 2009 03:24pm 11 |

Evil G
135 Posts
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@Ryan
The team has the LM page tab bug on "red alert" for Monday morning,
which will probably be overnight for those of us in the USA since
they are six hours ahead.
@SocialPreneur
We've added a request to the team to add HTML Title Box
headings as an option so that you can type in whatever you want
and it becomes a heading in the title box area.
US Courts seem to have already decided that "deep linking" and
iframing are legal so long as one does not attempt to obfuscate
(hide) the source of the original content in a way to confuse
or deceive the end user. As such, it seems perfectly fine to do
this, since you are really doing nothing more than including
other services into a "mashup" that gives the user a superior
browsing experience without having to jump around to different
tabs.
To change the width in an iFrame, you simply use CSS or the
handy "slider" that is right above the height box... drag this
to some percentage that is less than 100% and you are done.
Cheers!
EG
WidgetLaboratory
Feel free to contact the LAB for help any time:
help@widgetlaboratory.com or http://tokbox.com/EvilG
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| Sunday 12th April 2009 03:06am 12 |

Ryan F
248 Posts
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oh I wasn't referring to the bug. I am saying that when you do
something in the layout manager it immediatly shows on the front
end. This is really bad and needs to change. There needs to be a
save function then a publish to the live site. Say I want to change
4 tabs put a few new modules up. You will not want this frankestein
showing live as you are doing it. You will want to make the changes
then publish once its how you want it.
The only other option is to pay for another premium network for
testing.
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| Sunday 12th April 2009 05:40pm 13 |

Evil G
135 Posts
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@Ryan
this issue is being discussed at the moment.
The method that we found worked best when we developed our product
on the other platform was to have a visibility option for the site
Admin that allows you to make the individual page changes visible
only to yourself (the page becomes invisible temporarily to anyone
else).
This would be in the "Edit Page" area where it now gives you
choices such as "visible to all, visible to logged-in members only,
visible to logged-out, etc."
By having a distinct page or pages that you use for "experimenting"
one can then take what you find to be workable and then apply it to
the real page(s) without delay and without freaking people out too
badly.
This is an open debate at the moment, and we are trying to balance
out the needs of designers against the needs of normal users...
those who would be confused by the extra option of having "live"
vs. "design" modes. Keep the good ideas coming.
Thanks!
EG
WidgetLaboratory
Feel free to contact the LAB for help any time:
help@widgetlaboratory.com or http://tokbox.com/EvilG
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